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the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by passion4 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:05 am
Excuse my ignorance
but I've seen various pics of mid 60's Devon interiors, and often wondered what all the bits are for and how the interior 'works' in terms of converting to a bed etc.
There seem to be two units that mount on the cargo doors, am I right in thinking the LHD one is for a wash bowl? If so, what's the one on the RHS for? Cooker/storage, or is this the taller upright unit? What's the unit for that goes to the side of the rear seat for?
The door in the end of the rear facing buddy seat? Fridge/storage?
Is the table top used to complete the bed, or is this a separate piece that gets stored in the rear overhead storage unit?
Any pics or labeled diagrams would be helpful, or maybe a link to an Devon brochure?
but I've seen various pics of mid 60's Devon interiors, and often wondered what all the bits are for and how the interior 'works' in terms of converting to a bed etc.
There seem to be two units that mount on the cargo doors, am I right in thinking the LHD one is for a wash bowl? If so, what's the one on the RHS for? Cooker/storage, or is this the taller upright unit? What's the unit for that goes to the side of the rear seat for?
The door in the end of the rear facing buddy seat? Fridge/storage?
Is the table top used to complete the bed, or is this a separate piece that gets stored in the rear overhead storage unit?
Any pics or labeled diagrams would be helpful, or maybe a link to an Devon brochure?
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by 8 8US » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:24 am
If you're going to VF I can give you a guided tour?
But in answer to your questions (for my 66):-
Cargo door cupboards, as you look at them the left hand one was for plates, cutlery etc
and the right hand one was for a washbowl, with a mirror sited just above.
Side of rear seat is my cooker unit on top with gas bottle and storage underneath.
Seperate table top above the rear hatch for the bed (see the picture above), the table that is in place all the time is for use in and out of the bus.
Devon brochure (66):-
But in answer to your questions (for my 66):-
Cargo door cupboards, as you look at them the left hand one was for plates, cutlery etc
and the right hand one was for a washbowl, with a mirror sited just above.
Side of rear seat is my cooker unit on top with gas bottle and storage underneath.
Seperate table top above the rear hatch for the bed (see the picture above), the table that is in place all the time is for use in and out of the bus.
Devon brochure (66):-
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by passion4 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:42 am
8 8US, brilliant, thanks that's really, really helpful!
So would the fridge/cooler go under the rear facing buddy seat?
Didn't realise the table was for inside and outside use!
Thanks for the offer, but until I can get a replacement bus, I won't be getting anywhere at the mo!
So would the fridge/cooler go under the rear facing buddy seat?
Didn't realise the table was for inside and outside use!
Thanks for the offer, but until I can get a replacement bus, I won't be getting anywhere at the mo!
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by clymoj » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:56 am
It changes by year and is different for bulkhead vs walkthrough buses. But considering the most common - a 64-67 Caravette bulkhead model...
The tall cupboard to the left of the rear-facing seat is the 'wardrobe'. It has a slide down front panel/door. (In a walkthrough model this unit is moved to over the LHS rear wheel well).
Underneath the end of the rear-facing seat, facing the cargo door, is an easicool which is an evaporation fridge. Tucked next to this is a water tap - there is no sink on a 64-67 bus, just the washbowl stand as you mention.
Next to the rear, forward-facing seat is the cooker unit. It has a lift up top (which can be removed and used as a small table) and a fold down flap towards the seat to allow access to the grill. Underneath it has a front access door which is big enough to store a 907 gas bottle.
In the rear there are drawers over the engine shelf and a side to side locker where you store the table legs. (In the walkthrough model the 'drawers' are asymmetric and one of them houses the spare wheel).
There is also an overhead shelf / table holder which keeps the 'large' table which makes up the bed.
To each side of this are two general purpose lockers (in a walkthrough model this is replaced with the wardrobe on the LHS and the one on the RHS is used as a cutlery and crockery cupboard).
There is a magazine rack attached to the long side panel with mountings for the day table ('small table') to attach to when in dining mode.
To make up the bed, the small table is removed, the magazine rack folds down to form the end six inches of the panel between the two seats and the large table slots in to make the rest. (In a walkthrough. U.S. The equivalent process is mental and needs a PHD in spatial awareness and at least 30 years experience of hardcore jigsaws).
The cargo door cupboards are a cutlery (and crockery) cupboard on the front door and a bathroom cabinet / mirror / washbowl stand on the rear door.
There is a slider unit locker that sits against the bulkhead for general storage. When in bed mode, the rear facing seat back flap flips down flat to give you the extra leg room to put your feet all the way to the bulkhead spare wheel pressing.
There is a passenger headrest which attaches with poppers to the front (back) of the wardrobe where it protrudes above the bulkhead from the can side.
60-63 buses:
There is a sink and a tap instead of the cooker beside the rear seat, with a front flap that doubles as a washbowl stand (the tap swivels to service both this and the sink). The cooker is instead mounted on the rear cargo door where it can be flapped up for cooking outdoors. The 62/3 cooker can also be mounted on the front of the wardrobe for indoor cooking. To facilitate this there is a gas pipe routed from the back to the front, meanwhile the water tank pipe routes from front to back to service the sink. I can't imagine why they changed it
60-61 buses also have slider storage units mounted in the rear seat back which actually sits on the engine shelf, in front of shorter rear drawers for this year.
Walkthrough buses:
The rear facing seat is shortened width-ways to become a buddy seat.
In place of the wardrobe there is a swing out cooker unit with a water tap in it which houses in its underneath both the gas bottle and a water tank.
The easicool fridge is positioned where the cooker or sink units on bulkhead buses go - next to the rear seat.
There is no large table on walkthrough buses, the small table and various other boards slide into position. There is a stubby leg for the table to hold it at the correct height for the bed. There's a thread on here somewhere that shows it.
The tall cupboard to the left of the rear-facing seat is the 'wardrobe'. It has a slide down front panel/door. (In a walkthrough model this unit is moved to over the LHS rear wheel well).
Underneath the end of the rear-facing seat, facing the cargo door, is an easicool which is an evaporation fridge. Tucked next to this is a water tap - there is no sink on a 64-67 bus, just the washbowl stand as you mention.
Next to the rear, forward-facing seat is the cooker unit. It has a lift up top (which can be removed and used as a small table) and a fold down flap towards the seat to allow access to the grill. Underneath it has a front access door which is big enough to store a 907 gas bottle.
In the rear there are drawers over the engine shelf and a side to side locker where you store the table legs. (In the walkthrough model the 'drawers' are asymmetric and one of them houses the spare wheel).
There is also an overhead shelf / table holder which keeps the 'large' table which makes up the bed.
To each side of this are two general purpose lockers (in a walkthrough model this is replaced with the wardrobe on the LHS and the one on the RHS is used as a cutlery and crockery cupboard).
There is a magazine rack attached to the long side panel with mountings for the day table ('small table') to attach to when in dining mode.
To make up the bed, the small table is removed, the magazine rack folds down to form the end six inches of the panel between the two seats and the large table slots in to make the rest. (In a walkthrough. U.S. The equivalent process is mental and needs a PHD in spatial awareness and at least 30 years experience of hardcore jigsaws).
The cargo door cupboards are a cutlery (and crockery) cupboard on the front door and a bathroom cabinet / mirror / washbowl stand on the rear door.
There is a slider unit locker that sits against the bulkhead for general storage. When in bed mode, the rear facing seat back flap flips down flat to give you the extra leg room to put your feet all the way to the bulkhead spare wheel pressing.
There is a passenger headrest which attaches with poppers to the front (back) of the wardrobe where it protrudes above the bulkhead from the can side.
60-63 buses:
There is a sink and a tap instead of the cooker beside the rear seat, with a front flap that doubles as a washbowl stand (the tap swivels to service both this and the sink). The cooker is instead mounted on the rear cargo door where it can be flapped up for cooking outdoors. The 62/3 cooker can also be mounted on the front of the wardrobe for indoor cooking. To facilitate this there is a gas pipe routed from the back to the front, meanwhile the water tank pipe routes from front to back to service the sink. I can't imagine why they changed it
60-61 buses also have slider storage units mounted in the rear seat back which actually sits on the engine shelf, in front of shorter rear drawers for this year.
Walkthrough buses:
The rear facing seat is shortened width-ways to become a buddy seat.
In place of the wardrobe there is a swing out cooker unit with a water tap in it which houses in its underneath both the gas bottle and a water tank.
The easicool fridge is positioned where the cooker or sink units on bulkhead buses go - next to the rear seat.
There is no large table on walkthrough buses, the small table and various other boards slide into position. There is a stubby leg for the table to hold it at the correct height for the bed. There's a thread on here somewhere that shows it.
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by 8 8US » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:00 am
Mine is a bulkhead bus so no buddy seat but a full rear facing seat, the Easicool and Whale tap sit below the seat:-
They came with dansette style legs and the table has 4 brackets on to screw them into:-
The cooker top also has the brackets on as well as the table that is used for the bed, so if you have enough legs you could use them all outside!
There are also drawers and cupboards over the engine, not mentioned before:-
Which comes with a seat pad so can be used as a bed by small children.
They came with dansette style legs and the table has 4 brackets on to screw them into:-
The cooker top also has the brackets on as well as the table that is used for the bed, so if you have enough legs you could use them all outside!
There are also drawers and cupboards over the engine, not mentioned before:-
Which comes with a seat pad so can be used as a bed by small children.
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by passion4 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:09 am
clymoj wrote:It changes by year and is different for bulkhead vs walkthrough buses. But considering the most common - a 64-67 Caravette bulkhead model...
The tall cupboard to the left of the rear-facing seat is the 'wardrobe'. It has a slide down front panel/door. (In a walkthrough model this unit is moved to over the LHS rear wheel well).
Underneath the end of the rear-facing seat, facing the cargo door, is an easicool which is an evaporation fridge. Tucked next to this is a water tap - there is no sink on a 64-67 bus, just the washbowl stand as you mention.
Next to the rear, forward-facing seat is the cooker unit. It has a lift up top (which can be removed and used as a small table) and a fold down flap towards the seat to allow access to the grill. Underneath it has a front access door which is big enough to store a 907 gas bottle.
In the rear there are drawers over the engine shelf and a side to side locker where you store the table legs. (In the walkthrough model the 'drawers' are asymmetric and one of them houses the spare wheel).
There is also an overhead shelf / table holder which keeps the 'large' table which makes up the bed.
To each side of this are two general purpose lockers (in a walkthrough model this is replaced with the wardrobe on the LHS and the one on the RHS is used as a cutlery and crockery cupboard).
There is a magazine rack attached to the long side panel with mountings for the day table ('small table') to attach to when in dining mode.
To make up the bed, the small table is removed, the magazine rack folds down to form the end six inches of the panel between the two seats and the large table slots in to make the rest. (In a walkthrough. U.S. The equivalent process is mental and needs a PHD in spatial awareness and at least 30 years experience of hardcore jigsaws).
The cargo door cupboards are a cutlery (and crockery) cupboard on the front door and a bathroom cabinet / mirror / washbowl stand on the rear door.
There is a slider unit locker that sits against the bulkhead for general storage. When in bed mode, the rear facing seat back flap flips down flat to give you the extra leg room to put your feet all the way to the bulkhead spare wheel pressing.
There is a passenger headrest which attaches with poppers to the front (back) of the wardrobe where it protrudes above the bulkhead from the can side.
60-63 buses:
There is a sink and a tap instead of the cooker beside the rear seat, with a front flap that doubles as a washbowl stand (the tap swivels to service both this and the sink). The cooker is instead mounted on the rear cargo door where it can be flapped up for cooking outdoors. The 62/3 cooker can also be mounted on the front of the wardrobe for indoor cooking. To facilitate this there is a gas pipe routed from the back to the front, meanwhile the water tank pipe routes from front to back to service the sink. I can't imagine why they changed it
60-61 buses also have slider storage units mounted in the rear seat back which actually sits on the engine shelf, in front of shorter rear drawers for this year.
Walkthrough buses:
The rear facing seat is shortened width-ways to become a buddy seat.
In place of the wardrobe there is a swing out cooker unit with a water tap in it which houses in its underneath both the gas bottle and a water tank.
The easicool fridge is positioned where the cooker or sink units on bulkhead buses go - next to the rear seat.
There is no large table on walkthrough buses, the small table and various other boards slide into position. There is a stubby leg for the table to hold it at the correct height for the bed. There's a thread on here somewhere that shows it.
Thanks for taking time to detail that, next show I'll be making sure to have a proper look at any Devons on display!
So in bed mode, is the bed below the engine shelf like a Canterbury Pitt, or flush with it like a Westy?
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by passion4 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:12 am
8 8US wrote:Mine is a bulkhead bus so no buddy seat but a full rear facing seat, the Easicool and Whale tap sit below the seat:-
Gottcha, so what goes on in the tall cupboard that backs on to the bulkhead, more storage?
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by clymoj » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:27 am
The bed is below engine shelf level like a Pitt. Your head goes against the engine bulkhead and your feet tickle the spare wheel pressing on the cab bulkhead; hence why that seat back flaps down to give you the extra few inches of length.
The 'tall cupboard' against the cab bulkhead is the wardrobe. Theoretically clothes go in there, all nicely hung up on the dowel clothes rail mounted inside the top. I've not actually seen anyone hanging their shirts in there yet.
The 'tall cupboard' against the cab bulkhead is the wardrobe. Theoretically clothes go in there, all nicely hung up on the dowel clothes rail mounted inside the top. I've not actually seen anyone hanging their shirts in there yet.
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by 8 8US » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:28 am
It's a wardrobe, although mine is missing the rail at the top and the coathangers.
I use it for my modern gas cooker, jack, axle stands, tools, hook up cable etc etc.
And to answer your other question the bed is below the engine shelf and is just under 6ft with feet tucked into the bulkhead cupboard.
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I use it for my modern gas cooker, jack, axle stands, tools, hook up cable etc etc.
And to answer your other question the bed is below the engine shelf and is just under 6ft with feet tucked into the bulkhead cupboard.
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by passion4 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:49 am
Thanks peeps
Ah, so space to hang ones t-shirts and shorts then - there's always a first!
Ah, so space to hang ones t-shirts and shorts then - there's always a first!
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by clymoj » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:11 am
I've seen brochures aimed at the travelling salesman of the day - he could hang his suit and .... up during the trip without creasing them and use the day table setup as a mobile office.
Maybe that was a Devonette brochure with the single bed option instead of a caravette though, I can't remember.
Maybe that was a Devonette brochure with the single bed option instead of a caravette though, I can't remember.
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by maddison » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:40 am
clymoj wrote: I've not actually seen anyone hanging their shirts in there yet.
I hang my emergency jackets (and tuxedo
) in the wardrobe
welly's and shoes at the bottom, emergency umbrella (and air rifle behind the jackets
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by type21f » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:05 am
My the DICS disciples did well!
Well done lads!
What are you looking at Chris?
Well done lads!
What are you looking at Chris?
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by passion4 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:11 am
type21f wrote:My the DICS disciples did well!
Well done lads!
What are you looking at Chris?
Indeed, top marks I reckon, 10/10
I'm only at the stage of considering options at the mo, got to find me a bus first! However, getting a nice Devon interior would be nice!
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Re: the anatomy of a Devon interior…
by type21f » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:47 am
Maddy ....at first glance I thought that was your hand bag...Now I see it is your matching brolly...
Been trying to buy some wooden coathangers just like those but as fast as I have been aquiring the SWMBO has been putting my clothes on them and sending them to the charity shop..
The interiors as you can gather changed over the years and yes there was a 1963 Devonette only Brochure and a picture in the earlier 1961 Flyer and 1962 brochure.
I have written several threads,,on my search for Devonette interior pieces..
Rocket Ron and Maddison have helped with providing mising pieces... Even got a Devonette badge now... only took eight years to find that...LOL
The Apostles have been following..my search...
Sherry the topless Devonette needs an update....been working to get Peebles to MOT for my youngest son's wedding..
It was my eldest son who came with me to se the bus you had Chris... Long time ago now...before you moved!
Devon have quite a practical layout in their own way...just like CPs..
Sorry to read of your forced search for another Chris..
Best of Luck..
G
Been trying to buy some wooden coathangers just like those but as fast as I have been aquiring the SWMBO has been putting my clothes on them and sending them to the charity shop..
The interiors as you can gather changed over the years and yes there was a 1963 Devonette only Brochure and a picture in the earlier 1961 Flyer and 1962 brochure.
I have written several threads,,on my search for Devonette interior pieces..
Rocket Ron and Maddison have helped with providing mising pieces... Even got a Devonette badge now... only took eight years to find that...LOL
The Apostles have been following..my search...
Sherry the topless Devonette needs an update....been working to get Peebles to MOT for my youngest son's wedding..
It was my eldest son who came with me to se the bus you had Chris... Long time ago now...before you moved!
Devon have quite a practical layout in their own way...just like CPs..
Sorry to read of your forced search for another Chris..
Best of Luck..
G
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