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What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by andy f » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:09 pm
I seem to have a 67 only wiper unit , well the part number on the motor is 211 955 113G and the part number on the frame work is 211 955 605 A.

So what makes it a 67 only ?

Also.......
How can I test it if I don't have a 67 wiper switch, it has 4 elec contacts live, earth and something else, and the other one ;)

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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by thesickness » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:36 pm
It's 2 speed ;)
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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by type21f » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:47 pm
It is 12v?
On a frame
With different motor shape - cylinder shaped
The spindles are longer and have longer arms..
and they are hard to find!
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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by andy f » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:33 pm
Don' know it is a 12 vt. Would it have it stamped on it ?
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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by andy f » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:33 pm
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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by type21f » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:48 pm
211955113G is listed as 12v 1967 only...
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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by andy f » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:47 am
Cool, so does anybody know how to test without a 2 speed switch ?

Thanks
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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by jayvanman » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:19 am
My thinking would be it wouldnt matter what switch you use. A motor is a motor. The switch , i aassume willallow mord current to flow and therefore motir goes faster.

But dont do what i done and try it without a relay.

I powered mine up whilst connected to the arms on the frame without relay. Got so far and could turn back and im pretty sure i buggered it up.

Any way, i could bd wrong on all of this but im sure someone will put me right if i am wrong.

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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by andy f » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:34 am
Hey Jason, I found this

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=226619

So if I get time I'll have a play one evening.

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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by type21f » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:39 pm
Very Interesting article and diagram. Thanks!
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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by vwed » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:52 am
It is quite easy to test the motor on its own without a switch.
Remove the motor from the frame (3 bolts) and also disconnect the linkages from the crank arm of the motor, so that the motor is completely separate.
Get two lengths of wire with crocodile clips on each end.
Get a 12 volt battery ( a 6 volt will also work).
Connect one wire from the positive on the battery to terminal 53b (slow speed) on the motor.
Connect the other wire from the earth on the battery and touch it onto the galvanised body of the motor to complete the circuit. The crank should start to rotate.
Repeat, but connect this time to terminal 53 (fast speed) and the crank should rotate faster.
Do not connect anything to terminals 31b (switched earth) or 53a (park).
By the way I have the correct NOS 2 speed 12 volt switches available.
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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by andy f » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:19 pm
Thanks for all the input guys. Well the motor works on both speeds so all is good,

So I'm guessing it's not going to fit in my 61 if the frame and motor shape are different ?

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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by type21f » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:30 pm
I believe there was no change unless ed says different. I would trial fit...I would reckon it should fit
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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by vwed » Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:19 pm
The below diagram shows the layout of the 12 volt unit you have at the moment, which is for an August '66 to end of July '67 Bus ( and also for an August '65 to end of July '66 Bus, the only difference being the motor is 6 volt).
The next diagram shows the layout for the pre August '64 units (lower left) and the one year only August '64 to end of July '65 units.
Given that you have a '61 Bus, my advice would be to locate the correct parts for this. (Blatant plug: I have NOS motors,#4 in diagram, a frame, #8 in diagram, the rest is easily obtainable). That way you have the correct set up for the year of your Bus. The '61 motors were of course 6 volt , but new 12 volt armatures are readily available from the usual suspects (circa £42). It is an easy 3 minute job to change the armature. The motor is however single speed.
You might with some messing around get the '67 set up to fit, but on the other hand you could sell it to finance what I've outlined above.
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Re: What makes a "67 only" wiper ...a.67 only?

by type21f » Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:45 pm
I take it you have the 67 wiper motor...and the 61 bus ...
Does it have a wiper motor fitted?
If you have the bus under restoration with the dash tray out..I would try it. Then you could buy the switch from vwed.
What state are the arm spindles in?
I had a 65 SWF frame and motor converted to 12v by wiperman in USA. The armature does not fit the 65 one year only SWF breadline motor. Pre 64 you can convert yourself.
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