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King pins mot fail
King pins mot fail
by splitintwo » Thu May 11, 2017 3:49 pm
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Re: King pins mot fail
by splitintwo » Thu May 11, 2017 3:49 pm
Hi, in the mot yesterday the guy was unhappy about the play in the top kingpin, and as they've had a rebuild he's worried about the strength etc. He advised not to drive too far.
I've stripped them all down and found pitted parts and bit of play, the hub carrier has bushes is this normal? The king pin spacer has different thickness about half way, is this normal? The link pins with needle bearings have play on the pins is this when the bearings are fitted is this normal, I'm trying to see if anything is salvageable im going to load up pictures so where do i go from here... oh and I'll tell you about the knock in the steering box later... got the drivers side to look at too
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I've stripped them all down and found pitted parts and bit of play, the hub carrier has bushes is this normal? The king pin spacer has different thickness about half way, is this normal? The link pins with needle bearings have play on the pins is this when the bearings are fitted is this normal, I'm trying to see if anything is salvageable im going to load up pictures so where do i go from here... oh and I'll tell you about the knock in the steering box later... got the drivers side to look at too
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Re: King pins mot fail
by splitintwo » Thu May 11, 2017 3:53 pm
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Re: King pins mot fail
by splitintwo » Thu May 11, 2017 4:29 pm
https://www.flickr.com/photos/150588227 ... res/htS09T
Two working short videos here
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Re: King pins mot fail
by BJ1 » Fri May 12, 2017 7:21 am
Hi Ben
I'll phone you later but first talk to Rusting Hulk (Simon) on here. He's near Bristol so handy. Also try Gill (vwgillybilly) who recons these. Both know more about kingpins than anyone else, including me.
I'll phone you later but first talk to Rusting Hulk (Simon) on here. He's near Bristol so handy. Also try Gill (vwgillybilly) who recons these. Both know more about kingpins than anyone else, including me.
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Re: King pins mot fail
by ted698 » Fri May 12, 2017 2:19 pm
Whoa! - that top kingpin vid is a doozy
There's a lot of heavy pitting in the kingpin shaft - a new bush and ream to size MAY fix fit but dayymmmnnnn!
VWGillyBilly did mine - spoke to him and he sorted me out with kingpins, linkpins, metal caged linkpin bearings - the works - he's a good guy!
Turned them around in about a week too.
Good Luck!
There's a lot of heavy pitting in the kingpin shaft - a new bush and ream to size MAY fix fit but dayymmmnnnn!
VWGillyBilly did mine - spoke to him and he sorted me out with kingpins, linkpins, metal caged linkpin bearings - the works - he's a good guy!
Turned them around in about a week too.
Good Luck!
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Re: King pins mot fail
by splitintwo » Sat May 13, 2017 7:56 am
Morning! Had busy day yesterday, but managed to get time to rebuild them and dismantle them to work things out.
So I've ordered a new top king pin and bush and new link pins kit. One thing tho on Scholfields the king pins spacer (out of stock)comes in different sizes, mine has always had movement from the rebuild and no sign of oval wearing, cant this be bushed also as a precaution?
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So I've ordered a new top king pin and bush and new link pins kit. One thing tho on Scholfields the king pins spacer (out of stock)comes in different sizes, mine has always had movement from the rebuild and no sign of oval wearing, cant this be bushed also as a precaution?
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Re: King pins mot fail
by slippy8v » Sat May 13, 2017 8:37 am
VWGillyBilly refurbished a set of standard spindles for me and did a super job, and fast turn around
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Re: King pins mot fail
by Rusting Hulk » Sat May 13, 2017 2:17 pm
Does the top kingpin 'press' into the bottom one ore just push in? It should be around a 1 ton press fit....also the bushes should be changed together and reamed in line.
The spacer normally has a step, but it looks like your lower pin has been machined out and rebushed?? Give me a shout if you need any help Simon
The spacer normally has a step, but it looks like your lower pin has been machined out and rebushed?? Give me a shout if you need any help Simon
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Re: King pins mot fail
by splitintwo » Sat May 13, 2017 9:48 pm
Hello Simon!
Thanks for your reply, unfortunately no know it doesn't press in, which makes me now think why I had a near heart attack getting them apart those years ago.
I've ordered 2 bushes anyway so reaming together can be done.
when the stuff arrives I'll see how I get on and let you know as it might be worth you doing both
Thanks for your reply, unfortunately no know it doesn't press in, which makes me now think why I had a near heart attack getting them apart those years ago.
I've ordered 2 bushes anyway so reaming together can be done.
when the stuff arrives I'll see how I get on and let you know as it might be worth you doing both
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Re: King pins mot fail
by Rusting Hulk » Sat May 13, 2017 10:09 pm
Ok, if you need any help let me know.
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