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Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by X-F1 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:31 pm
Just a quick one!
After spending many an hour thinking where to hit it, where to beat it, is that salvageable on many a vw panel, i've almost mastered bodywork but i'm sure i'm missing a trick or 2.
Whilst working in my workshop the other day an Ex Aston Martin body time served metal/body finisher walked in interested in what I was thrashing about at. Working on all the hand built cars for around 40 years he certainly knew his metal!!!!
After an hour of unchargeable work I still couldn't convince hime to leave his current job but we may have come to a cool agreement! This being he'd be happy to come and tutor a group of us for a one off days in my workshop.
So as a starting point he's what i'm thinking....Correct me if i'm off the mark...
Most people would want to do this on a saturday?
5-6 people tops in a group?
£40-£60 per person (he wont do it for free and will have to hire some equipment)
Location - Milton Keynes area
If your interested either reply or pm me, this is a suck it and see idea so that we can all do more cost effective repairs etc.
Cheers Al
After spending many an hour thinking where to hit it, where to beat it, is that salvageable on many a vw panel, i've almost mastered bodywork but i'm sure i'm missing a trick or 2.
Whilst working in my workshop the other day an Ex Aston Martin body time served metal/body finisher walked in interested in what I was thrashing about at. Working on all the hand built cars for around 40 years he certainly knew his metal!!!!
After an hour of unchargeable work I still couldn't convince hime to leave his current job but we may have come to a cool agreement! This being he'd be happy to come and tutor a group of us for a one off days in my workshop.
So as a starting point he's what i'm thinking....Correct me if i'm off the mark...
Most people would want to do this on a saturday?
5-6 people tops in a group?
£40-£60 per person (he wont do it for free and will have to hire some equipment)
Location - Milton Keynes area
If your interested either reply or pm me, this is a suck it and see idea so that we can all do more cost effective repairs etc.
Cheers Al
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by bobley » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:51 pm
Yes, I am def up for this! Sat would be good for me.
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by david58 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:11 am
Yeah I would be well up for it, depending on date, but sounds great...
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by 686 bus-boy » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:25 am
I'd be up for this but again it depends on what date as i do shift work which involve working some weekends! (unfortunately!!
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by pye1man » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:15 am
Count me in! Saturday good for me, great idea! but what do we get for our £40-£60? Shall I bring my bus to practice on?
Cheers
Andy
Cheers
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by X-F1 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:37 am
Hi Andy/all interested
In answer to what would you get for your money...
He will bring various stretching, shrinking and forming tooling equipment, hired from a specialist. As well as dollies galore etc. This guy makes aston parts from scratch so he can roll a wing, form a bonnet, whatever, and remember that astons all had to be metal finished usually only having a filler primer coat before the serious paint!
We'll get 8 hrs of tuition on old metal, new metal, removing dints, bumps and forming new panels, he'll probably divide the day into 4 specialist areas!
My reason for doing this is to bring proper craftsmanship back to our vehicles, most uk bodyshops dont use the time served traditions now and literally either load the car with filler and leave an area like the surface of the moon behind it or gash a new panel!! As mentioned i'm self taught - my experience is racing engines, gearboxes and hydraulics (design, test and build) but i hate to see vehicles with poor bodywork so I took on a unit to finish my four splitties, a KG and a T25 16 inch! I'm half way through this collection and i'm happy with my work but I know there's more to learn. Its also my turn to put something back after 20 years in the vw scene.
A second spin off to this if all was successful would be a lead loading course if anyone would fancy it. Please remember these guys that worked on these vehicles are in there 50-60's and have done this all their lives.
I will provide work benches and also stud welders and tecna spot welders so we can also use these on blind panels. My unit is heated, finished out with toilets, basins etc so your not coming to the bronx. As mentioned its a suck it and see idea! Thats why the price is as is and not £100+
In answer to what would you get for your money...
He will bring various stretching, shrinking and forming tooling equipment, hired from a specialist. As well as dollies galore etc. This guy makes aston parts from scratch so he can roll a wing, form a bonnet, whatever, and remember that astons all had to be metal finished usually only having a filler primer coat before the serious paint!
We'll get 8 hrs of tuition on old metal, new metal, removing dints, bumps and forming new panels, he'll probably divide the day into 4 specialist areas!
My reason for doing this is to bring proper craftsmanship back to our vehicles, most uk bodyshops dont use the time served traditions now and literally either load the car with filler and leave an area like the surface of the moon behind it or gash a new panel!! As mentioned i'm self taught - my experience is racing engines, gearboxes and hydraulics (design, test and build) but i hate to see vehicles with poor bodywork so I took on a unit to finish my four splitties, a KG and a T25 16 inch! I'm half way through this collection and i'm happy with my work but I know there's more to learn. Its also my turn to put something back after 20 years in the vw scene.
A second spin off to this if all was successful would be a lead loading course if anyone would fancy it. Please remember these guys that worked on these vehicles are in there 50-60's and have done this all their lives.
I will provide work benches and also stud welders and tecna spot welders so we can also use these on blind panels. My unit is heated, finished out with toilets, basins etc so your not coming to the bronx. As mentioned its a suck it and see idea! Thats why the price is as is and not £100+
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by 686 bus-boy » Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:45 am
Sounds great!! Count me in on the lead loading course as well but as i previously said it depends on the dates. Weekdays are sometimes better for me but i understand that i am a minority there. Thanks for putting in the time on this.
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by david58 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:25 pm
Sounds great and not too far away from me. I could also do a week day or weekend, cheers, David.
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by pye1man » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:15 pm
X-F1 wrote:Hi Andy/all interested
In answer to what would you get for your money...
He will bring various stretching, shrinking and forming tooling equipment, hired from a specialist. As well as dollies galore etc. This guy makes aston parts from scratch so he can roll a wing, form a bonnet, whatever, and remember that astons all had to be metal finished usually only having a filler primer coat before the serious paint!
We'll get 8 hrs of tuition on old metal, new metal, removing dints, bumps and forming new panels, he'll probably divide the day into 4 specialist areas!
My reason for doing this is to bring proper craftsmanship back to our vehicles, most uk bodyshops dont use the time served traditions now and literally either load the car with filler and leave an area like the surface of the moon behind it or gash a new panel!! As mentioned i'm self taught - my experience is racing engines, gearboxes and hydraulics (design, test and build) but i hate to see vehicles with poor bodywork so I took on a unit to finish my four splitties, a KG and a T25 16 inch! I'm half way through this collection and i'm happy with my work but I know there's more to learn. Its also my turn to put something back after 20 years in the vw scene.
A second spin off to this if all was successful would be a lead loading course if anyone would fancy it. Please remember these guys that worked on these vehicles are in there 50-60's and have done this all their lives.
I will provide work benches and also stud welders and tecna spot welders so we can also use these on blind panels. My unit is heated, finished out with toilets, basins etc so your not coming to the bronx. As mentioned its a suck it and see idea! Thats why the price is as is and not £100+
Al sounds great mate I'm defianately up for it!
Cheers
Andy
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by flojo » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:06 pm
Count me in, sounds like a great idea
Anychance of getting some sort of basic welding masterclass going too, its something thats always appealed me to and an invaluable skill to have if you own a splitty
As said, count me in for this
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Anychance of getting some sort of basic welding masterclass going too, its something thats always appealed me to and an invaluable skill to have if you own a splitty
As said, count me in for this
Erran
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by moler » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:40 pm
I'm interested, but work shifts so am only available 2 weekends out of five!! oh, and i'm 150 miles away, but am definately willing to travel for this sort of wisdom
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by tyler » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:31 am
yea id be iterested
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by Bengie » Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:45 am
I'm interested, sounds great
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by split999 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:21 pm
I'm interested.
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Re: Panel Beating/Shrinking/Stretching Course - interested?
by Red Devil » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:38 am
I'd be very interested also so long as presvious experience/skills wasn't a prerequisite as I know nothing about this sort of thing but would love to come along and learn. Sometimes have to work at a weekend but would do all I can to make it though.
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