been thinking about fitting a type 4 motor in my splitty, not sure if its a good idea ?, or would i be better off spending my money on my existing engine, which is a standard 1600 tp, i have just done a straight axle conversion & used a 1300 gearbox, it really struggles up hills and does about 60-65 flat out. just looking for a bit more power and better cruising,
thanks in advance for any replies.

im suprised your struggleing up hills
i went for the 1500 box for my S/A
im still on 1600 tp and rip along at 75/80 all day long no problems
hill dont seem to matter either
anyway im doing a type 4 conversion over the winter
heres a pic


one thing ive learned so far is its not the cheap option
i kinda wish id of stuck with the type 1 now
but hey ho , im to far on now and its going in

type 4 are great but bloody expensive especially when converting to up right loads of fiddly bits to get right

have a swatch here, this dudes mad for the type 4 stuff!

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it all depeds on what you can do and how you do it
my bug has a t4 in cos the bus is waiting for a resto
the whole thing stands me at £1500 if that
that includes car, engine, conversion, insurance etc
im swapping to my new engine now to run it in and debug
i dont have a clue what it stands me at cos i did it over time ad bought up loads of broken engines and bits - it could ow me £1000 or it cold owe me nowt!

in a bus its said to stay with 2lt bs and ps
but its thought that this refers more to bays - the splitty is a little lighter and folks get away with the 96mm sets
gives you 2056cc and you should make 100 bhp if you sensible

http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=503904

BBBCVW wrote:type 4 are great but bloody expensive especially when converting to up right loads of fiddly bits to get right

Not necessarily. Both Tyler and me can budget under £1000 for one in upright form, including the engine price. Very good for a two liter or so Type 4. I just completed one, using an expensive method, and I'm sure I can do similar for a lot less.

CSP makes a kit to install a Type 4 engine in a Splitty for appx 235 pounds from Machine7. You just need to add a conversion flywheel and bearing (from http://www.airtechvw.com ) for about 130 quid and some old Type 1 aircooled parts you probably already have lying around (like fan shroud, fan, dynamo, etc). You can reuse the Type 4 exhaust and a set of old carbs and linkage from an aircooled T25 or a set of used Weber 34ICTs (if your on a budget). A remote oil cooler with hoses for appx 100. Finally, a 25 pound oil dipstick adapter and say 60 quid for a electric fuel pump & regulator.

All the bits are readily available here in the UK.

So that's 540 quid plus the cost of carbs and an engine. If you score a used Type 4 with carbs and exhaust for around 300 quid and you have Type 1 parts in your garage anyway, then the whole budget should be under £1000. A fair bit cheaper than buying a used 1776 Type 1.

Tyler used the Joe Cali way of reusing a lot of Type 1 and stock Type 4 parts. If you're handy with a welder, you can do the same for even cheaper than what I specified above, which is what Tyler did.

Like Rich said, here's my thread detailing my conversion.
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i can supply the flywheel and bearing for alot less than airtec
but mine arnt new!
and it depends if i have them in stock!
sometimes i have the clutches too

Tyler, I PMed you.

i`d like a flywheel, bearing and clutch....and explanation of how to fit please

pm me availability and price (my budget is £350 for everything, engine, porcshe cooling, 40 dells and zorst - i`ve spent £250 so far and still need manifolds, bottom pulley and tailpipe....so bare this in mind when working out the price

maddison wrote:i`d like a flywheel, bearing and clutch....and explanation of how to fit please

pm me availability and price (my budget is £350 for everything, engine, porcshe cooling, 40 dells and zorst - i`ve spent £250 so far and still need manifolds, bottom pulley and tailpipe....so bare this in mind when working out the price

Paul_F is selling a used bottom pulley you need with your 911 cooling. Show me the tailpipe you need, I may actually have one lying around.

airtechvw.com here in the UK sells the manifolds for 65 quid. Do you have a linkage and air cleaners? Otherwise, you're gonna blow that so-called "budget" of yours

for now....just need a standard zorst ...or anything, that`ll bolt onto the standard heat exchangers

thanks for the manifold tip off got all the linkages and filter etc....
Paul F...i know you`ll read this at some point...you still got a bottom pulley pal ?

my budget changes everytime i see something shiney if i`m gonna be realistic, i reckon £500 is probably more real