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Re: steering rack again
by tyler » Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:11 pm
probably used a rhd rack cos lhd racks are hard to find here
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Re: steering rack again
by brianpolley » Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:42 am
when you turn the rack upsidedown Does the rack not reverse direction so a left han drive rack would be the right way up no good on R H drive as the box reverses the steering to start with?
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Re: steering rack again
by althesparky » Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:55 pm
13 window deluxe wrote:just looking at other peoples steering conversions on the internet to see how others are doing things and ive found this thread, i have done a manual asta rack and pinion on my mates RHD 66 11 window and im soon to be on with my own power steering astra rack conversion on my own LHD 13 window over winter a few questions for althesparky, do you have any problems with the difference in lock to lock from side to side do you really notice? as i see you have mounted the steering rack 100mm off centre from straight ahead position as the rack bar centre is not central between the 2 mounting clamps, the pinion end of the rack has to be mounted on the outer edge of the chassis not the inner to centralise it. why didnt you use a LHD rack keep the steering shaft straighter? how does it drive on the motorway? that the main reason for me getting rid of the steering box i have a big motor/gearbox and disks all round but 70mph is frightening! round town is ok but long journeys are a bind
the reason i had to mount off centre is the pas rack has an extra part sticking out one side which would of caught on the hub, to be honnest it does turn further one way than the other but it still has more lock than a stock bus so not to fussed about that, not drivin on the motorway yet as i,m a long way from one but took it for a reasonble drive and wound it up to 75mph and it felt perfect, as for using the rhd rack on a left hand bus, try finding a lhd pas rack! that is the reason, after drivin the bus last week i can say its the best thing i,ve done to it,
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Re: steering rack again
by althesparky » Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:56 pm
tyler wrote:probably used a rhd rack cos lhd racks are hard to find here
whs!
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Re: steering rack again
by 13 window deluxe » Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:15 pm
thanks for the reply i know what you mean about the end of the rack sticking out of the chassis rail to centralise the rack the rhd van i did with my mate was like that but we measured up on full lock and it all seemed ok i was originally going to use a saxo pas rack as there centre mount track rods as well and theres millions on ebay for next to nothing pas and non pas but the rack bar end cover stuck out even further so i ditched it in favour of the vauxhall rack
as for the supply of lhd racks i just looked on ebay germany found 5 pas models selected a gsi one for better steering weighting and bought it buy it now it ended up costing £48 to the front door rack and carraige this was about 6 months since so that could have gone up a little now due to the crap pound
but still not bad? how heavy is the steering compared to a lowered steering box van?
as for the supply of lhd racks i just looked on ebay germany found 5 pas models selected a gsi one for better steering weighting and bought it buy it now it ended up costing £48 to the front door rack and carraige this was about 6 months since so that could have gone up a little now due to the crap pound
but still not bad? how heavy is the steering compared to a lowered steering box van?13 window deluxe
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Re: steering rack again
by 686 bus-boy » Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:14 pm
I can jump in here and add my thoughts,i have driven Al's bus since this conversion and its a completely different experience,more confident inspiring and not so knackering to drive as you dont have to battle with it and concentrate so much keeping it in a straight line.As for ease it's great,especially when slow manouvering/parking! I will certainly be going down this route when i get round to it on my project bus.
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Re: steering rack again
by 13 window deluxe » Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:14 pm
that's what im looking for a van you don't need a holiday from by the time you get to your desination
i will post some photo's as i go along if anyone's interested? same sort of setup as althesparkys but LHD rack on a LHD van no cross over steering shafts or bearings etc
i will post some photo's as i go along if anyone's interested? same sort of setup as althesparkys but LHD rack on a LHD van no cross over steering shafts or bearings etc13 window deluxe
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Re: steering rack again
by de-inked » Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:16 pm
pics of lhd rack onto lhd bus sounds just the ticket...
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Re: steering rack again
by 13 window deluxe » Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:59 pm
i stick some photo's on when i start it should be this month just got to finish bay interior and a few jobs on golf daily driver before i start
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Re: steering rack again
by vwJim » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:03 am
Found a source for the correct material to produce new steering columns, and the machinist, he says yes. So this will save having to use vw steering columns as a donor.
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Re: steering rack again
by tyler » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:22 am
id be interested in that
i may want one longet than std tho cos at the mo i have trouble getting my lanky legs under the wheel - mind you the seats i have are welded in!
got old ones to retro fit so it may change
would they be a 'propper' length or long so you can cut to length?
i guess you would only be machining one end? and the other would be blank for what ever fitting you wanted to fix there yourself?
i may want one longet than std tho cos at the mo i have trouble getting my lanky legs under the wheel - mind you the seats i have are welded in!
got old ones to retro fit so it may change
would they be a 'propper' length or long so you can cut to length?
i guess you would only be machining one end? and the other would be blank for what ever fitting you wanted to fix there yourself?
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Re: steering rack again
by vwJim » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:28 am
tyler wrote:i guess you would only be machining one end? and the other would be blank for what ever fitting you wanted to fix there yourself?
That's what I was thinking. And basically make them as long as possible to efficiently use up the stock lengths of rod, then anyone would have the flexibility to use them on any type of conversion.
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Re: steering rack again
by 59 pick up » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:55 pm
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Re: steering rack again
by 59 pick up » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:59 pm
splined shafts £30
http://www.flamingriver.com/index.cfm/p ... prd217.htm
http://www.flamingriver.com/index.cfm/p ... prd217.htm
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Re: steering rack again
by vwJim » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:11 pm
They're splined both ends from what I can see, so no good for splitty steering wheels. Oh, and solid so no way to run the horn cable through them... Unless I'm missing something there. Also, they're from $43 to $73 so into £ plus shipping plus import duties etc. they'd be more than £30 I guess.
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