I'm in discussion at the moment with Tracker, http://www.tracker.co.uk/ about getting club members a discount.

Exact details are yet to be arranged. It could be simply a discounted purchase price, or an upgrade to the level of service offered etc. Not sure yet, but naturally it will be easier to get good discounts if I have a better idea on how many systems you guys potentially might be interested in. (Much the same as when we were in original discussions with Firetec)

Anyways, let me know your thoughts. At this stage its only expressing an interest. If this goes ahead, I'll come up with a way of keeping track of those that are having a system without using any names, as its a security feature, best not too let any scumbags know what you have.

Yeah im intrested Jim

Here's the service levels that Tracker operate at the moment.

TRACKER Retrieve

Stage 1:
Vehicle owner contacts TRACKER HQ and the police to inform that their vehicle has been stolen.

Stage 2:
TRACKER HQ activates the unit hidden in the stolen vehicle. The vehicle is now emitting a silent land based radio signal.

Stage 3:
The silent signal can now be picked up by any of the UK's 52 police forces that are within the vicinity of the stolen vehicle. The signal will direct the police to the exact location of the stolen vehicle.

Stage 4:
On customer request, a uniformed guard waits with your vehicle until it is recovered to a destination of your choice - anywhere in mainland Britain. This service applies only to stolen vehicles located within mainland Great Britain.

TRACKER Monitor

Stage 1:
If a TRACKER Monitor equipped vehicle is illegally moved, a movement sensor hidden in the vehicle sends a signal to TRACKER HQ.

Stage 2:
TRACKER HQ contacts the vehicle owner to confirm whether the vehicle has been stolen. When confirmed as stolen to TRACKER HQ and the police, the TRACKER unit hidden in the stolen vehicle is activated. The vehicle is now emitting a silent land based radio signal.

Stage 3:
The silent signal can now be picked up by any of the UK's 52 police forces that are within the vicinity of the stolen vehicle. The signal will direct the police to the exact location of the stolen vehicle.

Stage 4:
On customer request, a uniformed guard waits with your vehicle until it is recovered to a destination of your choice - anywhere in mainland Britain. This service applies only to stolen vehicles located within mainland Great Britain.

TRACKER Horizon

Stage 1:
If a TRACKER Horizon equipped vehicle is illegally moved, a movement sensor hidden in the vehicle sends a signal to TRACKER HQ.

Stage 2:
TRACKER HQ contacts the vehicle owner to confirm whether the vehicle has been stolen. When confirmed as stolen to TRACKER HQ and the police, the TRACKER unit hidden in the stolen vehicle is activated. The vehicle is now emitting a silent land based radio signal and its position is being logged via GPS satellites.

Stage 3:
The silent signal can now be picked up by any of the UK's 52 police forces that are within the vicinity of the stolen vehicle. The signal and the GPS satellite positional information will work in conjunction to direct the police to the exact location of the stolen vehicle.

Stage 4:
On customer request, a uniformed guard waits with your vehicle until it is recovered to a destination of your choice - anywhere in mainland Britain. This service applies only to stolen vehicles located within mainland Great Britain.

TRACKER Retrieve

How does TRACKER Response work?
TRACKER Response is equipped to monitor the illegal movement of your vehicle, even when the ignition is turned off and the immobilizer is activated.

If the vehicle is moved without your authorization an alert is generated and you will be notified accordingly. You then contact TRACKER HQ to provide confirmation of the theft. Using GPS and our patented VHF technology, the TRACKER control room can display the vehicle's precise location on computer-based maps.

Driver Validation Tag
TRACKER Response includes a driver validation system that can detect whether the person driving the vehicle is authorised to do so. If the tag cannot be detected by the TRACKER Response unit, for example in the event of a theft where the thief does not have the tag, an alert will be generated and on confirmation of the theft, the tracking process begins

TRACKER Response Customer Website
For the first time TRACKER's Stolen Vehicle Recovery system is offering a truly interactive customer website to TRACKER Response customers. This will provide you with a host of additional benefits, including:

Route planner functionality:
This will provide you with the best-selected route for your chosen journey. In addition, TRACKER Response can highlight roadwork locations and other vehicle incidents.

Historical travel information:
This will allow you to see which routes your vehicle has travelled over a 6-month period, for example if you have lent your vehicle to another driver. Should you use your personal vehicle for business use, TRACKER Response allows you to flag business journeys and provides an interactive calculator, which will detail each business journey selected.

Personal reminder alerts:
In the instance where you leave the vehicle unattended, for example, at a train station car park, you can set a personal alert that will notify you of any vehicle movement. The TRACKER Response customer website allows you to highlight important dates, such as; your car's MOT or friend's birthday.

On the specified date, an alert will be sent to you reminding you of the event. A number of other alerts are also available such as a speed monitor.

European Cover
TRACKER Monitor and TRACKER Horizon provide tracking throughout the UK, France and Spain as standard. In addition to the UK, France and Spain, TRACKER Response and TRACKER Echo are operational throughout Western Europe.

Only thing with the Tracker product is they want a subscription. Even if you purchase the life of ownership it only lasts 3 years which is a con as it's not the life of ownership . Where as RAC Trackstar is for life of ownership.

DURATION OF OWNERSHIP TRACKER Monitor TRACKER Horizon TRACKER Response**
TRACKER Unit £243.00 £292.00 £488.00

Installation from £97.00 £146.00 £171.00

Duration of Ownership subscription* £342.00 £342.00 £415.00
TOTAL (incl. VAT) £682.00 £780.00 £1,074.00




ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION TRACKER Monitor TRACKER Horizon TRACKER Response
TRACKER Unit £243.00 £292.00 £488.00
Installation from £97.00 £146.00 £171.00
Annual subscription £122.00 £122.00 £145.00
TOTAL (incl. VAT) £462.00 £560.00 £804.00


Unit and installation prices may vary depending on installation company.

* TRACKER Response provides duration of ownership subscription lasting for 3 years only.
** Extended European coverage subscription is available for TRACKER Response customers.
To subscribe call 0500 090909

RAC TRACKSTAR
Subscription Charges

The subscription charge covers the monitoring of your tracking system and can be paid either annually by direct debit or as a one off payment referred to as Duration of ownership. The prices are listed below and include VAT.


Annually by direct debit £132.00
Duration of Ownership £369.00 payable by Credit or Debit Card.
(Please note that duration means duration of ownership and this subscription is not transferable from vehicle to vehicle or person to person.)

Trackstar TM400SS (Category:Trafficmaster Stolen Vehicle Tracker)

NOW WITH 3 MONTHS FREE SAFESPEED! The Trackstar TM400SS (Previously TM100) is the latest tracking product offered by Trafficmaster. The system is TQA Insurance Accredited and operates using GPS / GSM technology. It is a fully monitored Tracking system accepted by all insurance companies. THE INSTALLATION PRICE INCLUDES VAT AND NATIONWIDE INSTALLATION!
The Trafficmaster Trackstar TM100 will send a signal to the Trafficmaster National Control Centre if your vehicle is moved, without the ignition being on. They will contact you to establish that a theft has taken place and will liaise with the police. The Trafficmaster Control Centre will use GPS to pinpoint the location of your vehicle. In the event of a theft where your keys have been stolen your vehicle would be tracked as soon as you contacted the Control Centre. Trafficmaster also offer a unique option which allows the named driver to call their control room 6 times a year to carry out a test track.
Trackstar TM100 at a glance.
* Insurance Approved TQA rated GPS stolen vehicle tracker.
* Battery back up and motion sensor as standard.
* Offers UK and European tracking.
* Supported by American Military GPS .
* Part of Trafficmaster Plc.
* The system is subject to a network subscription of £132.00 per year or £369.00 for as long as you own the vehicle. Please see the 'Subscription page' for full information.
* 12 months warranty on both product and labour.
More Information: http://www.thatcham.org
Manufacturer: Trafficmaster PLC

Price £379.00

what sort of ball-park figure are these things please?

I'll mention that to them, and see what they'll offer.

I have one - and as great as they are you should be aware that they do need some work to have on an old car.

1. If i want to work on the car and do things like jack it up, you have to phone them to get it switched off - it automatically gets put back on at an agreed time. Thats once you have waited through the automated message!
2. If you store the car over the winter you have to keep the battery charged as if it goes flat the little battery in the Tracker system then gets used. I think you can only let that go flat a couple of times before Traker charge you for the replacement unit.
3. You have to negotiate with the installer about where and how to install it. They are told that they are not allowed to tell you but when they see the car and realise how simple it is they soon work out you will find it any way - use this excuse to get it installed where YOU want.

Other wise a fine idea to keep the theaving barstewards away!

RAC TRAFFICMASTER SITE

http://www.trafficmaster.co.uk/our_solu ... ar-new.php

de-inked wrote:what sort of ball-park figure are these things please?

All up for discussion at the moment, but as a guide, the FULL RETAIL price for these types of systems, using Samba Van Man's posting.

RAC Trackstar: £369+£379 = £748 (I don't know yet if that is inc. or plus installation)

Tracker: £682 or £780 or £1,074 (inc. installation)

I might be up for a couple, one for the bus and one for the daily. I wonder if that would mean 2 lots of subscription?? very interested though in making a saving

paulypaul wrote:I wonder if that would mean 2 lots of subscription??

Probably, but we'll see. Should be speaking to them tomorrow.

Very interested in this, but would prefer to keep the costs down as much as possible as we have just had a little one and would rather spend the money on him, rather than giving it to a company etc.

That said, I would also really love to keep my bus!!!!

So far, the RAC one seems like the better deal, but I'll let Jim talk to the above and work out which is the best system etc.

Once you have had a discussion with them can you let me know. More than likely will go head with the install.

Regards

flip

Hey Flip,

Will do. There seems to pro's and con's with both system. The Tracker system doesn't purely rely on GPS, so will work better when in a container etc. But the RAC system has the Life Membership, where as Tracker has that except on the highest service level. Yet to determine if Tracker has the motion sensors to pick up if its being towed or trailered. Once the spec's are worked out, ie which is better hardware, it'll make the price choice easier. We'll get there. Maybe RAC would give a counter offer too....

Following this with keen interest.

Thanks for putting the work in Jim.

Adam

i'm interested too.

probably tracker monitor.