readyboy61 wrote:Steve ditch the empi shifter, get hold of a stock one and use that short throw shifter plate job done, thats what i have and with all new bushes in the rods itl be perfect. Ive had a go on an empi shifter and feels no differnt to mine.

That can be plan B but as I have this one I'll persevere for a bit longer

Evening all

I got a little more done today but, as regular readers will know, Tuesday is Beavers night and we go out for a pie and a pint. Sadly this is my last Beaver night My Beaver has gotten too old (whoaaaaah, steady…. ) and is moving up to Cubs so they'll both be there and we'll be out on Wedsnedays

First job today, the gearstick. It needs a better spacer. So I had a measure and marked out a bit of 3mm steel



and gradually opened up the holes



While the metal and the drill were cooling down I worked out which door puller would make the cab door lock open fully and it turned out to be the grottiest one I had……. so that had a good clean up and the cab door now works well…..or it would if it would shut….that's an imminent job "to do."

When my step drill was no longer big enough I resorted to the burr grinder



so here it is on top of the bought speed shifter spacer



there's a bit more now for the shifter base to mount to. I bolted the stick on and got it selecting gears, feeling quite positive and "notchy." I don't know what it should feel like though so I'm going to try packing one more small washer on the underside of the floor to shim it a tad more to see how that feels. Then I can finish of the spacer. I made a start with the shaping. Then I need to weld on some sides…..



I had about a half hour left at this point so fitted the cargo door handles. All my handles will have to go off for chroming but I think I'll sort that out over the winter. They'll do until then….



That's it,

cheers,

Steve

Steve have you got the stock shift plate in there? the one with the littl ramp, http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=257813

readyboy61 wrote:Steve have you got the stock shift plate in there? the one with the littl ramp, http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=257813

Thanks Andy.

No I haven't I don't think the Empi/Hurst style needs it. I think it's all built in to the gubbins in the base

Why do you think I need it? What does it do?

Cheers

Steve

It's fitted under my short shift plate as per empi instructions and is also there originally, it's reverse lock out, without it I think you will find it won't stay in reverse gear or you will be able select reverse by accident when shifting through the gears boom there goes your box and could possibly lock your rear wheels up at speed causing you to crash.

Maybe you should dig out your Bentley manual lol
you push down to select reverse in a split,I'm pretty certain you have to have it, empi stuff isn't that clever, in fact most of their stuff is junk and I know that plate is 100% needed on the expensive csp shifters

But not shown here

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fitti ... VIx-rUM%3A

It has a reverse lock out arrangement built in as far as I can work out with a cable joined to the trigger. Lifting the trigger moves a washer up and over a gate.

I reckon bung a question in tech section, a few people must have the empi shifters, il have a search on the samba at lunch time too

Steve, easiest option is to but a new Empi shift from one of the dodgy dealers, find whats missing then return it as unwanted/faulty.

Nothing I have found on the empi shifter shows it so the trigger must do the job

readyboy61 wrote:Nothing I have found on the empi shifter shows it so the trigger must do the job

Trigger is for reverse.

Karl_F wrote:

readyboy61 wrote:Nothing I have found on the empi shifter shows it so the trigger must do the job

Trigger is for reverse.

We know that, trying to determine if the plate that sits under the stock shifter is needed,the csp has a button for reverse but still requires the stock plate

Excuse me!

You need a guide plate with the vintage speed & you need to lift for reverse, so presumable you need a plate to stop you selecting reverse accidentally with an Empi.

Only other info I can find.

viewtopic.php?t=70806

Evening all

A fairly full on day at work with the changing of one of the main office pc We've gone for a new one with a SSD which really flies

So, not too enthusiastic but once in the cave I did a bit on the Vespa and a bit on Rusty.

The Vespa stator plate has had the coils rewound so I shall be chasing that elusive spark per the weekend One more thing eliminated……..



and I wired and fitted the headlamp. It's nearly done now



and having got some longer bolts I was able to have another play with my gearstick It's caused much discussion over the last couple of days but I've got it in and by shimming underneath with two washers have a nice positive and notchy feel to it. I reckon that with the rest of the fab of the spacer I can eliminate the two washers from underneath, but it's proved a point.



I can't really test it much more without the engine and clutch in (I don't think so, anyway) Reverse is selected by lifting the lever which allows the stick to move further to the left and then reverse seems to be backwards……..yes, I know reverse IS backwards but the stick……..you know what I mean

Hopefully will have door tops and pop outs all painted and home for the weekend. A few little bits to finish off here and there….the flasher unit………. and then I think I will test the sender unit and then pop the fuel tank in. Then I can mount the petrol pump as I don't know where it goes yet……..not in the engine bay though….and it has a cut off solenoid to fit and wire…… so plenty to keep me busy…..

We've ordered some mats and door panels

That's all folks.

Who's at Volk World?????

Cheers

Steve

The only problem we have with the empi shifter was with when we didn't fit the spacer, we had a couple with the kit and with the wrong one on the van it didn't like changing gear, the wider one left it feeling sloppy and very vague.
It's been in for a couple of years now and we have just renewed all the bushes and greased everything, to find it now stiff to use, it might be down to the spacer compressing or just the parts need wearing in, going to try to fit a couple of washers under the spacer to see if it makes any difference.